Comments on: Count Cars Breaking the Law in Prospect Park!

By: Stefan

Stefan — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:47:50 +0000

I find it utterly unbelievable that in a city where cars can hardly go anywhere, and kids have sooooo much space to safely play, and joggers have all the space in the world to run, anybody would have the ridiculous idea to close prospect park for cars; Before you know it, we'll have NOWHERE left to go with our SUVs without stopping every minute. And the park is so laughably big, no wonder theres never a parking spot to be found. If you want a tree, drive upstate is what i say!

The discussion shouldn't be about opening or closing the park for cars, of for how long; but about the necessity of a park at all.
Don't just open the park, but destroy it, build an expressway, a couple of big parking lots and i think the neighbourhood could do with a decent shoppingmall finally!

By: Angela

Angela — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:04:16 +0000

Ok. so the moral is, let's all just start moving the barriers into place at closing time. Cause the folks working for the parks dept. certainly can't be at all the entrances simultaneously. (does anyone else wonder if all the cars driving through the park during the day, when supposedly it's closed, can really be official?)

By: World Wide Web Resources

World Wide Web Resources — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:00:42 +0000

World Wide Web Resources...

I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...

By: Streetsblog » Saturday Evening in Jackson Heights, Queens: Feel the Pain

Streetsblog » Saturday Evening in Jackson Heights, Queens: Feel the Pain — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:49:52 +0000

[...] who are submitting work to StreetFilms. Last month Brooklynite Doug Gordon shot this video of car traffic illegally entering Prospect Park. Likewise, Ian Dutton of Community Board 2 in Manhattan has been video-taping bike facilities to [...]

By: gus

gus — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:25:59 +0000

I noticed that there's a response up on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdR5xPYeuVs&watch_response

The park opens on time every day. I know because I ride out right as it's opening to cars and there's always a person standing there waiting for the clock to hit the hour on the dot. I ride back in at around 7, but it never closes on time. This is shameful. We want to cure obesity and give people a place to play but we don't give them the time to do it safely. I can't believe where our city's priorities are.

By: heath

heath — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:12:57 +0000

excellent film!!!!!

By: wilson phillips

wilson phillips — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:07:02 +0000

"There can be no real social change without social interaction and video"

Thank god someone invented video then right?

By: nickdigital

nickdigital — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:11:11 +0000

I think a larger point is being missed here. Someone took the time to point out a subject of concern that they had in a creative way, and in a way that stimulated discussion.
There can be no real social change without social interaction and video, especially video online is a great way to facilitate that. Lets use the energy that we could spend on petty name calling and stereotyping and put it to a better use like making our city safer and more enjoyable. Lets stick to constructive and active discussion instead of hiding behind a fake persona so that we can label people.

By: huh

huh — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:49:14 +0000

Don't feed the trolls.

By: Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org)

Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:00:59 +0000

it's not about city workers being 15 minutes late here or there. that is not the issue.

the issue is that because people in the park are not expecting to encounter cars in the park after 7pm, each of those 40+ vehicles represents a potential accident/injury. simple.

By: Azzy (http://www.snapedies.com)

Azzy (http://www.snapedies.com) — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:18:33 +0000

This is just more "online people getting outraged about everything" and God why do you have to use a word like vlog? People think they are so special. I'm going to post a video about ants coming onto my property from my neighbor's and nothing being done about it. OH THE OUTRAGE

By: Azzy

Azzy — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:15:37 +0000

Flaily is totally correct. Cars weren't around before but now they are... it's not a big deal that they are using the park 5 minutes late. What has happened to this country where everyone has sand where it shouldn't be. This hall monitor needs to leave the city if this bothers him.

By: r

Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:02 +0000

I can just imagine Flailey refreshing his browser for hours on end, waiting as the responses roll in to his comments. How sad.

By: Sean

Sean — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:21:21 +0000

After looking through the pages of the link posted by "Nobody" above, I realized a few things.

#1 - "Flailey" is joking, mentally ill, or both.
#2 - The way his absurd comments generated support for cars in the park and focused the debate on bikes, "rich whites," and issues of class seems laughable now.
#3 - There is a bottom line...The park (Prospect, Central or any other) is no place for cars.

By: Nobody

Nobody — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:31:42 +0000

Flailey is an experienced nose-tweaker and I think everyone here was an unwitting victim.

Supporting evidence:
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=65319#65319

By: Gourd on a bike

Gourd on a bike — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:51:10 +0000

This is a fucking amazingly rocking site. I'll be checking back.

By: vikinggirl

vikinggirl — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:46:41 +0000

Too late now--but why didn't all o' youse who were fulminating and foaming at the mouth against Flailey simply ignore his amusing and comically deficient reasoning? You wasted your time getting baited into stupid arguments provoked by a stupid person (Flailey). The guy studied at Bob Grant and Rush Limbaugh Universities, obviously, and it shows, in his "intelligent", populist arguments. He's probably from Kansas. Viking On (First in America, but we didn't colonize). vikinggirl

By: vikinggirl

vikinggirl — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:27:54 +0000

Poor, poor Flailey. Victim of the yuppies and whites. We feel sorry for him. We do.

By: Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org)

Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:30:24 +0000

those hunks of steel are going 35 mph if we're lucky!

each of the 40+ cars entering the park after 7pm represents a vehicle that those inside were not on their guard for because the car-free hours had ended; each one represents a potential accident/injury.

By: jogger

jogger — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:55:11 +0000

It's funny how this has become about good and bad cyclists versus cars. Why? I've watched both videos and neither say that this issue is just about cyclists but rather that it's about people who want to enjoy the park without cars. We see people biking, but we also see joggers, kids, a woman walking her dog, etc.

But I guess some people just want to use every available opportunity to hate on hipster bikers.