Comments on: In Appreciation of the NEW Times Square http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/ Documenting Livable Streets Worldwide Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dahlia http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-175361 Dahlia Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:48:13 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-175361 In response to negative comments, and I know this is a a few months after the fact but 1) Streetfilms is not exactly designed to be a "nuetral" party that represents both sides like a news cast would. While you have a point that no one who disliked the space was interviewed and chalked it up to "poor film making", you neglect the very real, and quite obvious public space advocacy intentions of Streetfilms. 2) While you might have a point that there is no info on what planners "did", that ALSO might go towards proving just how little planners had to do, ALSO proving how simple and therefore great the idea actually IS. To answer your question, they "did" what was said: closed the Times Square portion of Broadway to cars. That's it. Installed planters and places chairs. Voila! The avenues to the east and west and all the streets running east and west remained open. Less people logically choose Broadway to drive down and instead use one of the many other relatively less congested thoroughfares to travel on, balancing out traffic and comparatively directly benefiting far more people than it directly inconveniences. In New York, unlike how I imagine Ohio, if one street or highway is closed, the traffic on it does not have to be "rerouted". Unlike the sprawl of other places, the density of Manhattan means there are many pre-existing and nearby routes by which to travel in a car. Any traffic on those streets has much more to do with the dense nature of the city in general and much less to do with the new Times Square. Visit and you'll see. In response to negative comments, and I know this is a a few months after the fact but 1) Streetfilms is not exactly designed to be a "nuetral" party that represents both sides like a news cast would. While you have a point that no one who disliked the space was interviewed and chalked it up to "poor film making", you neglect the very real, and quite obvious public space advocacy intentions of Streetfilms. 2) While you might have a point that there is no info on what planners "did", that ALSO might go towards proving just how little planners had to do, ALSO proving how simple and therefore great the idea actually IS. To answer your question, they "did" what was said: closed the Times Square portion of Broadway to cars. That's it. Installed planters and places chairs. Voila! The avenues to the east and west and all the streets running east and west remained open. Less people logically choose Broadway to drive down and instead use one of the many other relatively less congested thoroughfares to travel on, balancing out traffic and comparatively directly benefiting far more people than it directly inconveniences. In New York, unlike how I imagine Ohio, if one street or highway is closed, the traffic on it does not have to be "rerouted". Unlike the sprawl of other places, the density of Manhattan means there are many pre-existing and nearby routes by which to travel in a car. Any traffic on those streets has much more to do with the dense nature of the city in general and much less to do with the new Times Square. Visit and you'll see.

]]> By: charlie watts http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-168051 charlie watts Tue, 25 May 2010 17:20:46 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-168051 This video and this project inspire me. Thank you New York! This video and this project inspire me. Thank you New York!

]]> By: Steve Bowman http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-147651 Steve Bowman Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:53:42 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-147651 It's no exaggeration to call this "mind-blowing." It's a glimpse of what happens when we design things to serve people instead of always-always-always the almighty automobile. It's no exaggeration to call this "mind-blowing." It's a glimpse of what happens when we design things to serve people instead of always-always-always the almighty automobile.

]]> By: Dave http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-120571 Dave Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:57:19 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-120571 This film would have been a whole lot more helpful if it had shown precisely what changes to times square were actually made. What parts used to be pedestrian, what parts used to be vehicular? Which parts were reassigned? What happened to the traffic- where was it rerouted? A bunch of happy talk from a few satisfied pedestrians, on balmy days, no less, tells us next to nothing. I could have made that film from Ohio (which is where I live). Never mind that they didn't interview anyone that doesn't like the new scheme (area residents? businesses? cab drivers? theater goers?). Just show us what the planners actually did! Poor film making. This film would have been a whole lot more helpful if it had shown precisely what changes to times square were actually made. What parts used to be pedestrian, what parts used to be vehicular? Which parts were reassigned? What happened to the traffic- where was it rerouted?

A bunch of happy talk from a few satisfied pedestrians, on balmy days, no less, tells us next to nothing. I could have made that film from Ohio (which is where I live). Never mind that they didn't interview anyone that doesn't like the new scheme (area residents? businesses? cab drivers? theater goers?).

Just show us what the planners actually did! Poor film making.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-100471 Daniel Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:29:49 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-100471 Yey for times square, the changes are permanent, today is a beautiful snowy day, I will go to times square to relax and have a snow ball fight with the naked cowboy! Yey for times square, the changes are permanent, today is a beautiful snowy day, I will go to times square to relax and have a snow ball fight with the naked cowboy!

]]> By: Erik B. http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-88011 Erik B. Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:36:27 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-88011 Congrats everyone on keeping Times Square open. Here is my post on Bloomberg's decision: http://i.feedtacoma.com/Erik/despite-opposition-nyc-mayor-bloomberg/ Congrats everyone on keeping Times Square open.

Here is my post on Bloomberg's decision:

http://i.feedtacoma.com/Erik/despite-opposition-nyc-mayor-bloomberg/

]]> By: Stu Sirota http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-79481 Stu Sirota Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:21:34 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-79481 I took my family, including three small kids, from Baltimore to NYC this summer. The "new" Times Square was a true highlight for us. Originally from the NYC metro area myself, I remember well how hostile and dysfunctional Times Square was to pedestrians, which is ironic since it probably has the highest concentration of pedestrians anywhere in the U.S. It used to feel unsafe and unpleasant, with pedestrians being crowded and vying for limited sidewalk space and crossing streets at their peril. I would not have felt comfortable bringing my children there under these circumstances. However, having heard about the recent changes, we wanted to experience it for ourselves, and I must say that it exceeded my wildest expectations. After returning to Baltimore, I have been telling friends and associates about this and others have become interested in visiting to experience it for themselves. With just modest infrastructure changes (paint, planters, and folding chairs!) Times Square has been transformed into a much more welcoming place to linger and enjoy a world class urban experience. It is exciting and vibrant as ever, but there is now clearly a sense of balance between vehicles and pedestrians that simply did not exist before. I only hope that the Mayor will make these changes permanent and make further improvements to Times Square and other public spaces throughout NYC. This is a true model that should be emulated! I took my family, including three small kids, from Baltimore to NYC this summer. The "new" Times Square was a true highlight for us. Originally from the NYC metro area myself, I remember well how hostile and dysfunctional Times Square was to pedestrians, which is ironic since it probably has the highest concentration of pedestrians anywhere in the U.S.

It used to feel unsafe and unpleasant, with pedestrians being crowded and vying for limited sidewalk space and crossing streets at their peril. I would not have felt comfortable bringing my children there under these circumstances. However, having heard about the recent changes, we wanted to experience it for ourselves, and I must say that it exceeded my wildest expectations. After returning to Baltimore, I have been telling friends and associates about this and others have become interested in visiting to experience it for themselves. With just modest infrastructure changes (paint, planters, and folding chairs!) Times Square has been transformed into a much more welcoming place to linger and enjoy a world class urban experience. It is exciting and vibrant as ever, but there is now clearly a sense of balance between vehicles and pedestrians that simply did not exist before.

I only hope that the Mayor will make these changes permanent and make further improvements to Times Square and other public spaces throughout NYC. This is a true model that should be emulated!

]]> By: Jeff Daly http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-77041 Jeff Daly Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:58:17 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-77041 Times Square is world famous with thousands of foreign and domestic visitors each year. It is great to have an area where you can look at all the activity in Times Square without blocking the sidewalk. A town square oasis with access to chairs, light food and drink, and street performers is just what the area needs. Times Square is world famous with thousands of foreign and domestic visitors each year. It is great to have an area where you can look at all the activity in Times Square without blocking the sidewalk. A town square oasis with access to chairs, light food and drink, and street performers is just what the area needs.

]]> By: Eric Thomann http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-76971 Eric Thomann Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:31:34 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-76971 I love the plazas! It shows real forward thinking on the part of the Mayor and DOT. Thank you, Michael and Janet!! If I were king of the city, I'd actually go for WIDER bike lanes (Class 1 Greenways) connecting PERMANENT PLAZAS! It's our public open space. These are our living rooms! Robert Moses is dead. It's about time we took back our city from the automobile. Keep up the good work. I love the plazas! It shows real forward thinking on the part of the Mayor and DOT. Thank you, Michael and Janet!!

If I were king of the city, I'd actually go for WIDER bike lanes (Class 1 Greenways) connecting PERMANENT PLAZAS!

It's our public open space. These are our living rooms! Robert Moses is dead. It's about time we took back our city from the automobile.

Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Bev http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-76831 Bev Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:54:09 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-76831 Well done! High fives!! Well done! High fives!!

]]> By: Justin N http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-73391 Justin N Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:57:33 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-73391 I was in NYC over the summer- Times Square was a high-quality bit of public space that was just pleasant to be in. Compared to what I see in this video, I hope for residents and visitors alike that Mayor Bloomberg makes the right decision. I was in NYC over the summer- Times Square was a high-quality bit of public space that was just pleasant to be in. Compared to what I see in this video, I hope for residents and visitors alike that Mayor Bloomberg makes the right decision.

]]> By: Ken http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-72831 Ken Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:37:44 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-72831 Awesome job, Clarence! You've outdone yourself again. If you keep this up, you won't recognize yourself. This is a defeat if Midtown traffic speeds haven't increased across the board? If I remember correctly, the predictions were for total gridlock, as they always are when a proposal is made to remove a street from the grid. Awesome job, Clarence! You've outdone yourself again. If you keep this up, you won't recognize yourself.

This is a defeat if Midtown traffic speeds haven't increased across the board? If I remember correctly, the predictions were for total gridlock, as they always are when a proposal is made to remove a street from the grid.

]]> By: Erik B. http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-72651 Erik B. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:40:08 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-72651 Hang in there NYC, it looks like you are under siege by the traffic engineers, cab drivers and the media. How unfortunate that the city is considering only how many cars are going through as the output measure for the success or failure of the project. That only makes it place worth driving through and not stopping at. Make sure all of your local politicians see the video. Perhaps you could have people where are walking through the area cast their vote on which design they like. You may need to call upon the powers of Veronica Moss and her A.U.T.O. forces. Don't lose this one Streetfilms, the whole world is watching and will use it as a reference however it comes out. Hang in there NYC, it looks like you are under siege by the traffic engineers, cab drivers and the media.

How unfortunate that the city is considering only how many cars are going through as the output measure for the success or failure of the project.

That only makes it place worth driving through and not stopping at.

Make sure all of your local politicians see the video.

Perhaps you could have people where are walking through the area cast their vote on which design they like.

You may need to call upon the powers of Veronica Moss and her A.U.T.O. forces.

Don't lose this one Streetfilms, the whole world is watching and will use it as a reference however it comes out.

]]> By: David Yoon http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-72641 David Yoon Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:19:25 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-72641 Absolutely wonderful tribute to a brilliant, brilliant idea whose time has truly come. If we can re-invent Times Square, we can re-invent anywhere...no excuses! All it takes is imagination and will--two things that don't cost a dime.  This video actually made me tear up a little. Beautiful, inspiring stuff, which I reposted at once to Narrow Streets Los Angeles...thank you guys! Absolutely wonderful tribute to a brilliant, brilliant idea whose time has truly come. If we can re-invent Times Square, we can re-invent anywhere...no excuses! All it takes is imagination and will--two things that don't cost a dime. 

This video actually made me tear up a little. Beautiful, inspiring stuff, which I reposted at once to Narrow Streets Los Angeles...thank you guys!

]]> By: Jerica http://www.streetfilms.org/in-appreciation-of-the-new-times-square/comment-page-1/#comment-72611 Jerica Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:07:19 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=26191#comment-72611 Wow! wouldn't it be cool if other places had things like this. Awesome! Wow! wouldn't it be cool if other places had things like this. Awesome!

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