Comments on: Marin County’s Cal Park Tunnel (finally) opens to much fanfare! http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/ Documenting Livable Streets Worldwide Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Thiasstephen http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-264341 Thiasstephen Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:18:00 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-264341 this is dumb, it's not like anyone in marin will actually use this for commute.  its really only for weekend riders who wanna give their beamers a rest fuck marin burn yuppies this is dumb, it's not like anyone in marin will actually use this for commute.  its really only for weekend riders who wanna give their beamers a rest

fuck marin burn yuppies

]]> By: Justin http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-241278 Justin Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:23:12 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-241278 FUCK YOU MARIN... your self propelling pricks. FUCK YOU MARIN... your self propelling pricks.

]]> By: chickeee in Canada http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-219348 chickeee in Canada Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:57:03 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-219348 since it is so short they should add small speed bumps to slow the bikes since it is so short they should add small speed bumps to slow the bikes

]]> By: poncho http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218777 poncho Sun, 19 Dec 2010 02:05:04 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218777 some of you cyclists have the motorist mentality... slow the F down and share the road some of you cyclists have the motorist mentality... slow the F down and share the road

]]> By: Bob Davis http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218103 Bob Davis Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:13:02 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218103 Not only did the old trains run all the way to Fairfax, they were electric-powered, and in those days (up to 1941), much of the electricity came from hydro-electric plants. Not only did the old trains run all the way to Fairfax, they were electric-powered, and in those days (up to 1941), much of the electricity came from hydro-electric plants.

]]> By: Todd Edelman http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218083 Todd Edelman Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:03:20 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218083 http://www.sonomamarintrain.org/userfiles/file/CalPark%20ASCE_submittal.pdf for the total thing about the tunnel. http://www.sonomamarintrain.org/userfiles/file/CalPark%20ASCE_submittal.pdf for the total thing about the tunnel.

]]> By: Todd Edelman http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218081 Todd Edelman Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:02:52 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218081 Hi, as you can see at the link it will not be light rail, but heavy rail (a DMU - Diesel Multiple Unit - the engines are incorporated into the cars,e.g. under the floor. There is a similar example in San Diego and all over Europe) and will have 24 spaces for bikes! The rail section will be single-track which is fine since the train will not be running frequently enough to make this a problem. It is actually sad in a way as the original railway went all the way to Fairfax and you can tell very easily how the former tracks were filled in at that end with another road and parking. Hi, as you can see at the link it will not be light rail, but heavy rail (a DMU - Diesel Multiple Unit - the engines are incorporated into the cars,e.g. under the floor. There is a similar example in San Diego and all over Europe) and will have 24 spaces for bikes! The rail section will be single-track which is fine since the train will not be running frequently enough to make this a problem.

It is actually sad in a way as the original railway went all the way to Fairfax and you can tell very easily how the former tracks were filled in at that end with another road and parking.

]]> By: ZA http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218059 ZA Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:45:08 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218059 Makes good time & $ense. The likely commuter from San Rafael to downtown San Francisco (and back) now has some real choices: - Bus: $8.08 and 120-140 minutes (+congestion) - Bike-Ferry-Bike: $11.40 and <180 minutes (no congestion) - Car: $32* and 80 minutes (+congestion) *tricks of the trade can bring this price down, but no less than $17 with a lot of added parking ticket risk. Makes good time & $ense.

The likely commuter from San Rafael to downtown San Francisco (and back) now has some real choices:

- Bus: $8.08 and 120-140 minutes (+congestion)
- Bike-Ferry-Bike: $11.40 and <180 minutes (no congestion)
- Car: $32* and 80 minutes (+congestion)

*tricks of the trade can bring this price down, but no less than $17 with a lot of added parking ticket risk.

]]> By: Tunnel...lover http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218043 Tunnel...lover Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:08:55 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218043 Sounds like Kyle is a speed demon. Sounds like Kyle is a speed demon.

]]> By: kyle http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218034 kyle Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:16:26 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218034 "The only thing that would cause a problem is if a cyclist decides she needs to tear ass through this thing." yeah, i think this will happen ... often "The only thing that would cause a problem is if a cyclist decides she needs to tear ass through this thing."

yeah, i think this will happen ... often

]]> By: Justin http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218031 Justin Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:03:38 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218031 Come on guys its going to be fine in there. Even at just 7 mph it will take what maybe 3 or 4 minutes to get through 1000 feet of tunnel? Would it have been better to have two bike lanes, heading in opposite directions and a single lane for peds like on the Brooklyn Bridge or Crissy Field area, sure. But this is a narrow tunnel with only so much space. The only thing that would cause a problem is if a cyclist decides she needs to tear ass through this thing. Come on guys its going to be fine in there. Even at just 7 mph it will take what maybe 3 or 4 minutes to get through 1000 feet of tunnel? Would it have been better to have two bike lanes, heading in opposite directions and a single lane for peds like on the Brooklyn Bridge or Crissy Field area, sure. But this is a narrow tunnel with only so much space. The only thing that would cause a problem is if a cyclist decides she needs to tear ass through this thing.

]]> By: John Murphy http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218026 John Murphy Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:18:24 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218026 Gary's right. This is a hazard. Close it down. Gary's right. This is a hazard. Close it down.

]]> By: Gary http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218025 Gary Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:14:01 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218025 @Terry: Your idealistic not realistic. @Terry:

Your idealistic not realistic.

]]> By: Terry http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218022 Terry Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:58:48 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218022 Share the path! Share the path!

]]> By: Gary http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218008 Gary Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:47:29 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218008 It seems most of the time when you have cyclists and pedestrians, especially on a narrow path like the tunnel, there's going to be conflicts. People in groups of two and more always seem to walk abreast. If indeed there's that much traffic, even occasionally as in the video, there's going to be trouble. The east walk of the GGB being a example. It seems most of the time when you have cyclists and pedestrians, especially on a narrow path like the tunnel, there's going to be conflicts. People in groups of two and more always seem to walk abreast.

If indeed there's that much traffic, even occasionally as in the video, there's going to be trouble.

The east walk of the GGB being a example.

]]> By: kyle http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-218007 kyle Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:43:01 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-218007 looks cramped expect much bike-ped conflict looks cramped
expect much bike-ped conflict

]]> By: Clarence Eckerson, Jr. http://www.streetfilms.org/marin-countys-cal-park-tunnel-finally-opens-to-much-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-217920 Clarence Eckerson, Jr. Tue, 14 Dec 2010 05:05:12 +0000 http://www.streetfilms.org/?p=48856#comment-217920 As I mentioned in the write-up, see here for much more information: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/12/10/cal-park-tunnel-opening-ceremony-sees-hundreds-of-cyclists/ The tunnel has preserved the railroad right-of-way for future light rail or train cars. The $$$ are not there yet, they hope for them. I just didn't have enough time to get into it in this video other than the brief mention at the end. As I mentioned in the write-up, see here for much more information: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/12/10/cal-park-tunnel-opening-ceremony-sees-hundreds-of-cyclists/

The tunnel has preserved the railroad right-of-way for future light rail or train cars. The $$$ are not there yet, they hope for them. I just didn't have enough time to get into it in this video other than the brief mention at the end.

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