Comments on: Portland (Green) Bike Box!

By: Angela

Angela — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:48:14 +0000

I live in Portland and it's great to finally take back the streets. Bikes are here to stay and cars have to learn we have a right to the streets too.

By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.

Clarence Eckerson Jr. — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:22 +0000

Jim,

Bike Boxes are actually used a few different ways as I understand them. In NYC they are used to allow the cyclist to move to a better position to make the turn while stationed at a red light. I am sure there is also a visibility aspect to them.

In Portland they are using them to make the cyclists more visible and avoid right hook turns into cyclists. At a red light - cyclists are supposed to position themselves in front of the car in the bike box, or at the very least move up closer to the light in the bike lane so that the driver sees you. Even when there is no red light, the green lanes are a sort of warning to drivers that cyclists are going to be coming thru there. This is why there is an additional green striping halfway thru the intersection.

Do they work? I think the Portland DOT there is still collating data, but my experience with anecdotes from friends indicate their installation isn't hurting the situation and some told us they think they are helping in some degree. But one thing that is certain: I think a very small percentage of cyclists are actually using them from my observations and riding around. So how to get more people to use? Make fun bike box videos....

Also, I think bike boxes are good for another reason no one seems to realize: cars frequently stop, sit, or get stuck in a crosswalk. ANYTHING additional (a stop bar, bike box, text on the asphalt asking drivers to stop BEFORE they get to the crosswalk) will just help keep drivers more in line and keep the crosswalks clear for pedestrians. Even if that is all the bike box helps achieve, I think it is a good thing.

By: MA Shumin

MA Shumin — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:49:43 +0000

BIKE BOX! we need that in the Big Apple

By: Jim Frank

Jim Frank — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:40:01 +0000

I thought bike boxes were designed to help cyclists make a left turn at lights? In the video its expressly for going straight and to let the driver know you are there. So that would make it protect cyclists from cars making a right turn.

In San Francisco the driver is supposed to turn into the bike lane at the intersection if they are making a right turn. The solid white line turns into a dotted white line about 50 feet before the intersection to indicate that drivers may merge into the bike lane to turn right.

Do they have bike boxes stripped at intersections for people making a left turns?

By: Derrek Wayne

Derrek Wayne — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:22:10 +0000

Right on. You're welcome. Nice to meet ya Nick.

By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:57:37 +0000

Awesome. We need some of these in small town USA, like Athens.

ps. Your first "Bike Box!" link is hosed.

By: Ken

Ken — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:15:08 +0000

New Yorkers should be GREEN with envy! Great job, Clarence, but keep your left a little higher when throwing the right.

By: Ed Pino

Ed Pino — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:17:25 +0000

BIKE BOXes we need more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed

By: Scott for npGREENWAY

Scott for npGREENWAY — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:51:15 +0000

bIkE bOx!!

Thanks for the long awaited sequel, Clarence!

hmmmm.... to bike box, or not to bike box.... history will tell...

By: Dennis Hitchcox

Dennis Hitchcox — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:57:51 +0000

Bike Box! Most excellent.