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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263865</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m familiar with that kind of stuff. It&#039;s cute, but it doesn&#039;t really demonstrate utility of buses 100&#039; long, let alone 500&#039;, in any place where it &lt;b&gt;might&lt;/b&gt; be practical to put long buses. I somehow doubt even Brasilia was built with such vehicles in mind.  What such things can&#039;t do it make 90-degree turns in a typical urban street, and they can&#039;t make even less sharp turns at reasonable speed, because they don&#039;t have a fixed guideway. And then, you have to consider that without some kind of guidance system vehicles behind will turn more sharply than vehicles ahead &#8211; it is not just a question of segment length. You can say you only need to build them the busways they would need, but why?  An LRT guideway is cheaper and allows for better service, and can go places the longer buses cannot go, and, despite what you keep saying, even can pass more efficiently if passing sidings are incorporated &#8211; and then LRT has lower operating costs above the rails too. 

Basically, it&#039;s what always happens once you start blowing money on fancier buses:  they get more expensive to operate and maintain than trains. Leave them for the low-rider local/feeder services they&#039;re built for, where there is no point in spending money on infrastructure beyond curb signs and the odd shelter.  There is a reason &quot;long&quot; buses are toys used at Disneyland, not mission-critical transit scenarios. (BTW, that bus-train is not very long.  It might be a little longer than an articulated bus, with a fraction of the capacity.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm familiar with that kind of stuff. It's cute, but it doesn't really demonstrate utility of buses 100' long, let alone 500', in any place where it <b>might</b> be practical to put long buses. I somehow doubt even Brasilia was built with such vehicles in mind.  What such things can't do it make 90-degree turns in a typical urban street, and they can't make even less sharp turns at reasonable speed, because they don't have a fixed guideway. And then, you have to consider that without some kind of guidance system vehicles behind will turn more sharply than vehicles ahead &ndash; it is not just a question of segment length. You can say you only need to build them the busways they would need, but why?  An LRT guideway is cheaper and allows for better service, and can go places the longer buses cannot go, and, despite what you keep saying, even can pass more efficiently if passing sidings are incorporated &ndash; and then LRT has lower operating costs above the rails too. </p>
<p>Basically, it's what always happens once you start blowing money on fancier buses:  they get more expensive to operate and maintain than trains. Leave them for the low-rider local/feeder services they're built for, where there is no point in spending money on infrastructure beyond curb signs and the odd shelter.  There is a reason "long" buses are toys used at Disneyland, not mission-critical transit scenarios. (BTW, that bus-train is not very long.  It might be a little longer than an articulated bus, with a fraction of the capacity.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus  Just because you havent seen it be done, doesnt mean it isnt possible.

I dont know where you live, but if it&#039;s on the east coast, then you&#039;ve never seen one of these on the interstate highway
http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Triple-Trailer.jpg
Thats right, a single truck pulling 3 trailers. And thats in mixed traffic. 

Heres what Utah allows, 95 feet in mixed traffic.
http://www.utahmc.com/trucking_guide/img/low/chapter_14/triple-combination.jpg

An articulated bus is 60 feet. 

And yes, the Montreal metro is a good example. Being a &quot;train&quot; isnt what magically allows it to pull 10 cars. Nor is it the fact that it&#039;s on a track. It&#039;s the electric power that lets it pull so much weight and the fact that it has an exclusive ROW. And yes, the montreal metro hits many curves.

The turning radius has nothing to do with overall length, but with segment length. As long as there is an articulation or gap every 30 or so feet.....your bus can be as long as you want if it&#039;s in an exclusive lane. 

You may have even ridden on such an example. Disney runs a 7 car + engine bus.
http://www.originald.com/pics/updates/2009-04-21/ATR/Large/IMG_8647.JPG

Even does a tight loop at both ends.

And here&#039;s the fun part: One disney tram can and does pass the other disney tram that is busy unloading to dock at the next available slot. (Families are slow) 

So instead of waiting behind the station, as a train would, this disney bus can pull around the loop and unload on the other side of the platform. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus  Just because you havent seen it be done, doesnt mean it isnt possible.</p>
<p>I dont know where you live, but if it's on the east coast, then you've never seen one of these on the interstate highway<br />
<a href="http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Triple-Trailer.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Triple-Trailer.jpg</a><br />
Thats right, a single truck pulling 3 trailers. And thats in mixed traffic. </p>
<p>Heres what Utah allows, 95 feet in mixed traffic.<br />
<a href="http://www.utahmc.com/trucking_guide/img/low/chapter_14/triple-combination.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.utahmc.com/trucking_guide/img/low/chapter_14/triple-combination.jpg</a></p>
<p>An articulated bus is 60 feet. </p>
<p>And yes, the Montreal metro is a good example. Being a "train" isnt what magically allows it to pull 10 cars. Nor is it the fact that it's on a track. It's the electric power that lets it pull so much weight and the fact that it has an exclusive ROW. And yes, the montreal metro hits many curves.</p>
<p>The turning radius has nothing to do with overall length, but with segment length. As long as there is an articulation or gap every 30 or so feet.....your bus can be as long as you want if it's in an exclusive lane. </p>
<p>You may have even ridden on such an example. Disney runs a 7 car + engine bus.<br />
<a href="http://www.originald.com/pics/updates/2009-04-21/ATR/Large/IMG_8647.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.originald.com/pics/updates/2009-04-21/ATR/Large/IMG_8647.JPG</a></p>
<p>Even does a tight loop at both ends.</p>
<p>And here's the fun part: One disney tram can and does pass the other disney tram that is busy unloading to dock at the next available slot. (Families are slow) </p>
<p>So instead of waiting behind the station, as a train would, this disney bus can pull around the loop and unload on the other side of the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263862</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, no, you can&#039;t have a ten-car &quot;bus&quot; &#8211; unless you&#039;re calling the types of vehicles used in Montreal buses.  Certainly not with TM&#039;s busways, which aren&#039;t even fixed guideways, and even if that weren&#039;t a problem they aren&#039;t exactly impeccably straight.  What do you propose next? A &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theonion.com/video/obama-replaces-costly-highspeed-rail-plan-with-hig,18473/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;high-speed bus&lt;/a&gt;? Articulated buses are probably about the practical limit to vehicke lengths without a fixed guideway; get much longer than that an turning radii need to be insane. (I suppose computerized guidance could make longer vehicles possible, but I have never heard of such things in practice.) 

Regardless, a huge part of the point of transit is to &lt;i&gt;prevent vehicles from arbitrarily doing anything&lt;/i&gt;. The best thing for them is to stay on schedule so they don&#039;t interfere with vehicles behind them, and so passengers don&#039;t miss connections. How do you make a ten-car bus arbitrarily pass another ten car bus? If it&#039;s not possible with trains, as you keep saying, it would be even harder with buses. 

And where the hell are you that building track is more expensive than building a busway? Even in mixed traffic urban streets, it sounds iffy and it gets positively ridiculous on unimproved land or when grade separation is called for. It sounds like more of the same ol&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondavenuesagas.com/2011/09/14/port-jervis-future-revisited-again/#comment-212368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;buses are cheaper myth&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, no, you can't have a ten-car "bus" &ndash; unless you're calling the types of vehicles used in Montreal buses.  Certainly not with TM's busways, which aren't even fixed guideways, and even if that weren't a problem they aren't exactly impeccably straight.  What do you propose next? A <a href="http://www.theonion.com/video/obama-replaces-costly-highspeed-rail-plan-with-hig,18473/" rel="nofollow">high-speed bus</a>? Articulated buses are probably about the practical limit to vehicke lengths without a fixed guideway; get much longer than that an turning radii need to be insane. (I suppose computerized guidance could make longer vehicles possible, but I have never heard of such things in practice.) </p>
<p>Regardless, a huge part of the point of transit is to <i>prevent vehicles from arbitrarily doing anything</i>. The best thing for them is to stay on schedule so they don't interfere with vehicles behind them, and so passengers don't miss connections. How do you make a ten-car bus arbitrarily pass another ten car bus? If it's not possible with trains, as you keep saying, it would be even harder with buses. </p>
<p>And where the hell are you that building track is more expensive than building a busway? Even in mixed traffic urban streets, it sounds iffy and it gets positively ridiculous on unimproved land or when grade separation is called for. It sounds like more of the same ol' <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2011/09/14/port-jervis-future-revisited-again/#comment-212368" rel="nofollow">buses are cheaper myth</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus 

Youre going around in circles here. I explained that capacity has nothing to do with train vs bus operation. You can have a 10 car train. You can have a 10 &quot;car&quot; bus. As long as the right of way is separate (and it is in this case) then the fact that the bus runs on tires is no limit to the amount of cars a single driver can pull. 

And how does being on steel wheels help punctuality...? I assume you&#039;re referring to trains ability to accelerate faster. But thats only the case for electric, not diesel trains. Electric buses accelerate just as well. 

As for the green line, trains cant get longer without extremely expensive escavations  to make stations longer. Add more trains...? Theyre already backed up in the tunnels! Better signals? Well, the trains can run almost bumper to bumper (but not as much as buses due to stupid rules that limit how close trains can operate to each other).  

Actually, letting green line trains &quot;arbitrarily&quot; pass each other would do wonders for service levels. Say the B line is docked at a station. The B is very popular, so it takes longer to load. If there was a way to pass, the less popular C could close its doors, and move on while the B finishes the loading process. Or, if passing was allowed, trains could &quot;arbitrarily&quot; express and skip various stops.

Impossible with most rail systems because its too expensive to build more track. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus </p>
<p>Youre going around in circles here. I explained that capacity has nothing to do with train vs bus operation. You can have a 10 car train. You can have a 10 "car" bus. As long as the right of way is separate (and it is in this case) then the fact that the bus runs on tires is no limit to the amount of cars a single driver can pull. </p>
<p>And how does being on steel wheels help punctuality...? I assume you're referring to trains ability to accelerate faster. But thats only the case for electric, not diesel trains. Electric buses accelerate just as well. </p>
<p>As for the green line, trains cant get longer without extremely expensive escavations  to make stations longer. Add more trains...? Theyre already backed up in the tunnels! Better signals? Well, the trains can run almost bumper to bumper (but not as much as buses due to stupid rules that limit how close trains can operate to each other).  </p>
<p>Actually, letting green line trains "arbitrarily" pass each other would do wonders for service levels. Say the B line is docked at a station. The B is very popular, so it takes longer to load. If there was a way to pass, the less popular C could close its doors, and move on while the B finishes the loading process. Or, if passing was allowed, trains could "arbitrarily" express and skip various stops.</p>
<p>Impossible with most rail systems because its too expensive to build more track.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263852</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jamesboat:disqus : besides capacity (um, don&#039;t even try &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; one), more punctual operation?  Anyway, I don&#039;t think the TM implementation is that bad. I don&#039;t see a compelling reason to change it to rail unless they really do need more capacity - in which case, they probably should probably go underground anyway.  For that matter, I don&#039;t see why BRT should be operating in such a way where buses are platforming together. It&#039;s a sign sign that the BRT system isn&#039;t solving the issues BRT sets out to solve over conventional bus service.  It&#039;s just that you&#039;re calling something that&#039;s probably a bug a feature.

I don&#039;t know how bad the Green Line is.  I haven&#039;t ridden it since 2002. But if what you say about it is true, that it spends much of its time waiting for trains ahead to clear, there is something wrong with it. I&#039;m just taking your word for it, but if that&#039;s the case solutions include: longer trains, more frequent trains, maybe supplementary local bus service, better operational practice (signals?), or maybe it really is at its capacity limit. If the latter is really true, any solution chosen to add capacity has a high upfront cost, and a new busway is hardly the cheapest or lowest-impact option. Either way, vehicles should not be arbitrarily passing each other. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jamesboat:disqus : besides capacity (um, don't even try <strong>that</strong> one), more punctual operation?  Anyway, I don't think the TM implementation is that bad. I don't see a compelling reason to change it to rail unless they really do need more capacity - in which case, they probably should probably go underground anyway.  For that matter, I don't see why BRT should be operating in such a way where buses are platforming together. It's a sign sign that the BRT system isn't solving the issues BRT sets out to solve over conventional bus service.  It's just that you're calling something that's probably a bug a feature.</p>
<p>I don't know how bad the Green Line is.  I haven't ridden it since 2002. But if what you say about it is true, that it spends much of its time waiting for trains ahead to clear, there is something wrong with it. I'm just taking your word for it, but if that's the case solutions include: longer trains, more frequent trains, maybe supplementary local bus service, better operational practice (signals?), or maybe it really is at its capacity limit. If the latter is really true, any solution chosen to add capacity has a high upfront cost, and a new busway is hardly the cheapest or lowest-impact option. Either way, vehicles should not be arbitrarily passing each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@twitter-22468380:disqus  and @3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus , lets assume that Bogota immediately replaced their buses and asphalt with trains and rail. What advantage would they see?

Capacity? Well, no. Theres nothing limiting the length of a bus. Well, actually, the power of the motor is a limiting factor, but if they were to electrify the line and distribute the power, then you could have a 500 foot long bus, with the appropriate articulations. Of course, a 500 foot bus cannot leave the buway and travel on surface streets when necessary, so thats a huge drawback. 

How is the green line a bad implementation? it&#039;s the logical conclusion of ANY transit system that has greater demand than the travel way can accommodate. Trains can have congestion too. If the green line ran on tires instead of rail, it would be easier to create passing lanes and create local and express trains. That would be cheaper than the cost of adding a complete 3rd or 4th track to the system. Note I say easier, yes, trains can change tracks, but it&#039;s slow and less flexible. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@twitter-22468380:disqus  and @3a9cb377ae68ba7b489d30e5eb859747:disqus , lets assume that Bogota immediately replaced their buses and asphalt with trains and rail. What advantage would they see?</p>
<p>Capacity? Well, no. Theres nothing limiting the length of a bus. Well, actually, the power of the motor is a limiting factor, but if they were to electrify the line and distribute the power, then you could have a 500 foot long bus, with the appropriate articulations. Of course, a 500 foot bus cannot leave the buway and travel on surface streets when necessary, so thats a huge drawback. </p>
<p>How is the green line a bad implementation? it's the logical conclusion of ANY transit system that has greater demand than the travel way can accommodate. Trains can have congestion too. If the green line ran on tires instead of rail, it would be easier to create passing lanes and create local and express trains. That would be cheaper than the cost of adding a complete 3rd or 4th track to the system. Note I say easier, yes, trains can change tracks, but it's slow and less flexible.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263849</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeeze, I don&#039;t know how Jamesboat got in there instead of Jass. Sorry about that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeeze, I don't know how Jamesboat got in there instead of Jass. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263848</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jamesboat:disqus : I have been on the Green Line.  So what? You can&#039;t use a bad implementation to prove a good implementation is inferior to a worse implementation. Miles is absolutely right: timing is everything, and buses pulling up and leaving semi-randomly is just not a good sign </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jamesboat:disqus : I have been on the Green Line.  So what? You can't use a bad implementation to prove a good implementation is inferior to a worse implementation. Miles is absolutely right: timing is everything, and buses pulling up and leaving semi-randomly is just not a good sign</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Bader</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263828</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Bader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jass:disqus Ok, you&#039;re right, the type of tires and track surface are mostly irrelevant (although historically there&#039;s generally a correlation between grade separation and rail).

But I think my point still holds: the ability you laud, to pass/leave in arbitrary order, is only relevant when the system timing is so sloppy as to require it—and such sloppy timing inherently restricts the speed and capacity of the system.  Morever, &lt;em&gt;using&lt;/em&gt; this ability on a regular basis will make the problem worse.

So rather than a positive, really this is a workaround for a very large negative.  If Bogotá wants to increase capacities, this is a sign that they&#039;ve got some pretty fundamental changes to make.

[Of course, as Alon says, &lt;em&gt;passing&lt;/em&gt; can be (and very often is) done on any rail as well, and is very useful for handling expresses etc.]

p.s. Don&#039;t begin your answer with &quot;No.&quot;, it&#039;s obnoxious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jass:disqus Ok, you're right, the type of tires and track surface are mostly irrelevant (although historically there's generally a correlation between grade separation and rail).</p>
<p>But I think my point still holds: the ability you laud, to pass/leave in arbitrary order, is only relevant when the system timing is so sloppy as to require it—and such sloppy timing inherently restricts the speed and capacity of the system.  Morever, <em>using</em> this ability on a regular basis will make the problem worse.</p>
<p>So rather than a positive, really this is a workaround for a very large negative.  If Bogotá wants to increase capacities, this is a sign that they've got some pretty fundamental changes to make.</p>
<p>[Of course, as Alon says, <em>passing</em> can be (and very often is) done on any rail as well, and is very useful for handling expresses etc.]</p>
<p>p.s. Don't begin your answer with "No.", it's obnoxious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bolwerk, I suggest you ride the nations most popular light rail line, the green line in Boston. In the central tunnel, trains always have to stop due to congestion. With trains, the line moves as fast as the slowest vehicle because passing is impossible. Buses allow &quot;leapfrog&quot; service and the slowest vehicle is no longer the bottleneck. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bolwerk, I suggest you ride the nations most popular light rail line, the green line in Boston. In the central tunnel, trains always have to stop due to congestion. With trains, the line moves as fast as the slowest vehicle because passing is impossible. Buses allow "leapfrog" service and the slowest vehicle is no longer the bottleneck.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263823</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jass:twitter: of course, and so what?  On a properly designed system, you can make up time by going a little faster to stay on schedule. Presumably this is true for TM too. I don&#039;t think being able to leave in semi-random order is a problem per se, but I don&#039;t see a benefit either. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jass:twitter: of course, and so what?  On a properly designed system, you can make up time by going a little faster to stay on schedule. Presumably this is true for TM too. I don't think being able to leave in semi-random order is a problem per se, but I don't see a benefit either.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263818</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video Elizabeth, lots of critical thought! Let&#039;s hope that&#039;s the only complaint we&#039;ll hear about BRT here in LA once the Wilshire Blvd. BRT is striped and operational in 2 years!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video Elizabeth, lots of critical thought! Let's hope that's the only complaint we'll hear about BRT here in LA once the Wilshire Blvd. BRT is striped and operational in 2 years!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263817</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bolwerk, youve never had a delay in boarding because of someone in a wheelchair or stroller....regardless of mode of travel? Or someone holding the doors open for their friend? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bolwerk, youve never had a delay in boarding because of someone in a wheelchair or stroller....regardless of mode of travel? Or someone holding the doors open for their friend?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263816</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of these things seem to be true. Bi-articulated buses exist and will exist more in the next phase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of these things seem to be true. Bi-articulated buses exist and will exist more in the next phase.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolwerk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263815</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolwerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the only time you&#039;d want buses leaving in a peculiar order is when some of the buses are running way off-schedule &#8211; that implies a real weakness to this system, not a strength. 

Anyway, almost any conceivable benefit to surface buses can be realized in a surface rail system that leaves room for bustitution during maintenance times. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the only time you'd want buses leaving in a peculiar order is when some of the buses are running way off-schedule &ndash; that implies a real weakness to this system, not a strength. </p>
<p>Anyway, almost any conceivable benefit to surface buses can be realized in a surface rail system that leaves room for bustitution during maintenance times.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerard Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263814</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerard Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that there&#039;s no mention given that this system is at capacity for additional services that by-pass crowded stations or looking into the larger Bi-articulated buses that Curitiba uses.   Now Curitiba is looking at building its busier bus corridors into rail. Maybe Bogota should invest in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm surprised that there's no mention given that this system is at capacity for additional services that by-pass crowded stations or looking into the larger Bi-articulated buses that Curitiba uses.   Now Curitiba is looking at building its busier bus corridors into rail. Maybe Bogota should invest in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263813</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trains can have passing lanes, too. They just never need the capacity except on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_%28Rapid%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;insanely overcrowded lines&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trains can have passing lanes, too. They just never need the capacity except on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_%28Rapid%29" rel="nofollow">insanely overcrowded lines</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles Bader, No. Transit of ANY kind in mixed traffic is unreliable. Transit of ANY kind on an exclusive right of way is reliable (assuming competent agency). Dont confuse your local experience with the technology. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles Bader, No. Transit of ANY kind in mixed traffic is unreliable. Transit of ANY kind on an exclusive right of way is reliable (assuming competent agency). Dont confuse your local experience with the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: icarus12</title>
		<link>http://www.streetfilms.org/ten-years-after-redefining-brt-whats-next-for-transmilenio/comment-page-1/#comment-263810</link>
		<dc:creator>icarus12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clip is worth 10,000 words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clip is worth 10,000 words.</p>
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